Zapeo sam kod prevođenja! Trebam pomoć!

[brxxxi]

Mogu li ovde pitati ako ne mogu da skontam neku recenicu u toku prevodjenja? Dakle ja ne bi trazio DA MI NEKO PREVODI nego da mi pomogne da rastumacim i shvatim kontekst nekih recenica u toku prevodjenja

Topic odobren od strane admina.

Svatko tko ima problem kod prevođenja, zapne na nekoj riječi i sl. slobodno nek se obrati ovdije i netko će već pomoći.

[brxxxi]

I've just been planting a tree peony.

It probably won't survive these winds,
but the flowers are so beautiful...

I thought it worthwhile
challenging the odds.

Kaze

Posadio sam bozur. Verovatno nece preziveti ovaj vetar ali cvece je prelepo...

ovo sledece ne razumem.........

[simac]

I've just been planting a tree peony.

It probably won't survive these winds,
but the flowers are so beautiful...

I thought it worthwhile
challenging the odds.

Kaze

Posadio sam bozur. Verovatno nece preziveti ovaj vetar ali cvece je prelepo...

ovo sledece ne razumem.........

Iz ovoga: vjerovatno nece prezivjeti ovaj vjetar, mozes izvuc znacenje ovoga:
I thought it worthwhile
challenging the odds.
Kaze nesto u smislu: mislim da ce biti vrijedno izazvati nevjerojatnost.

[Nagy]

I've just been planting a tree peony.

It probably won't survive these winds,
but the flowers are so beautiful...

I thought it worthwhile
challenging the odds.

Kaze

Posadio sam bozur. Verovatno nece preziveti ovaj vetar ali cvece je prelepo...

ovo sledece ne razumem.........

I thought it worthwhile
challenging the odds.

Mislio sam da se isplati prkositi šansama. - Doslovno. Ili recimo: Mislio sam da je vrijedilo pokušati. - malo slobodnije.

[pejafor3]

I thought it worthwhile
challenging the odds.

Mislio sam da se isplati prkositi šansama. - Doslovno. Ili recimo: Mislio sam da je vrijedilo pokušati. - malo slobodnije.

Super.
Slazem se, bilo sta od ova dva predloga.

[brxxxi]

Hvala administratorima na odobrenju i hvala svima na pomoci

[-=QuadDamage=-]

Imam i ja jednu recenicu koju ne mogu da sklopim nikako:

This is nothing but dead-white-male bashing from a P.C. thug.

Ukratko, radi se o The Simpsons, uciteljica daje Lisi komentar nakon sto joj je dala keca zbog eseja u kojem
je ispljuvala Dzebedaju Springfilda.

Hvala unapred 

[Nagy]

Imam i ja jednu recenicu koju ne mogu da sklopim nikako:

This is nothing but dead-white-male bashing from a P.C. thug.

Ukratko, radi se o The Simpsons, uciteljica daje Lisi komentar nakon sto joj je dala keca zbog eseja u kojem
je ispljuvala Dzebedaju Springfilda.

Hvala unapred 

Ovo ću preskočiti, ali dead-white-male ti je u slengu kritika na velike umove koji mrtvi, a imali su značajan utjecaj na zapadnjačku kulturu. Primjerice, Shakespeare, itd...

[klio]

This is nothing but dead-white-male bashing from a P.C. thug.

Mozda gresim ali slobodno prevedeno bi trebalo da bude nesto kao
"Ovo nije nista drugo nego pljuvanje po velikim belim umovim od strane politicki korektnih grubijana"

a ti slozi da bude malo krace i bolje receno. Ako gresim, a ne bi trebalo, izvini!

[pejafor3]

This is nothing but dead-white-male bashing from a P.C. thug.

Mozda gresim ali slobodno prevedeno bi trebalo da bude nesto kao
"Ovo nije nista drugo nego pljuvanje po velikim belim umovim od strane politicki korektnih grubijana"

a ti slozi da bude malo krace i bolje receno. Ako gresim, a ne bi trebalo, izvini!

"Ovo nije nista drugo nego pljuvanje od strane politicki korektnih grubijana"
(mozes i da stavis umesto "grubijana" politickih "PROTIVNIKA")

A najbolje ovako....
"Ovo je obicno pljuvanje od strane politickih protivnika"

ONI.... koji ne znaju Engleski... nece znati da si ti skratio recenicu...
Mi... koji znamo i pevodimo... necemo se ljutiti...
Pohvalicemo te... jel si uspeo da prevedes nesto sto je nama ne raumljivo/ ne prevodljivo...
Samo nastavi...

[-=QuadDamage=-]

Hvala svima! 

Ponekad je zeznuto prevoditi njihov sleng, a jos ako koriste skrecenice.... muka! 

PS. Malo sam se pozabavio značenjem "P.C." , i shvatio da je to poprilično uzaludan posao  . Shvatićete kada pogledate ispod. Ko zna, možda bude nekom korisno   Moderatori ako mislite da treba da se briše, no problemo  Edit by MilanRS: Ne treba da se briše, samo si trebao kodovati, da ne bude predug post. Sredio sam.

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[Mila]

Tko nije naišao na ovo, evo pomoć za prevođenje slanga:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/

Doduše, ljudi sami stavljaju svoja objašnjenja, ali većinom su ok.


Jel zna netko što bi to bilo Navas Level Setting, radi se o videoigri koju igraju likovi iz Scrubsa. Moguće je i da je u titlu to krivo napisano, ali tako zvuči.

[spooking93]

puno pomaže i (pogotovo ako nemaš eng titl) transcript serije, a može ih se isto naći po netu...

inače, jednom davno je bila ideja da se napravi nekakav database(koji bi mi sami dopunjavali) s prijevodima eng. fraza i slengova, mislim da bi to mnogima olakšalo situaciju, pogotovo onima koji krenu prevoditi, a poznavanje engleskog i nije na nekoj razini...

[kanda]

Pozdrav!
Ima li neko ideju kako prevesti izraz "Jiggle me timbers". Znam da je neka seksualna aluzija, ali mislim da je prakticki neprevedivo bez da se izgubi smisao. Mozda je bolje da ostavim neprevedeno, sa nekom natuknicom u zagradi. Neka ideja?

[MoVies4eVer]

Zjoj.....nzm....timber znaci drvo, drvena gradja tako nesh.....bolje to ostawi u zagradi.....

[dee]

moj skromni prijedlog: jiggle my (me) timbers bi trebao biti nešto kao uzvik iznenađenja ili negodovanja. ne znam kontekst, pa ti ne mogu dati konkretan prijedlog, no pokušaj ga prevesti nekim našim ekvivalentnim uzvikom. izgubit ćeš seksualnu konotaciju (izvorna fraza je shiver my timbers, a jiggle je glagol koji označava pokrete gore-dolje kao pri... da prostite), no bolje i to nego ostaviti neprevedeno. prevoditelj je poput generala: treba procijeniti što žrtvovati, i koje gubitke se može pretrpjeti.

[spooking93]

google je čudo:

The DJ in the Monk episode did say "Jiggle me Timbers." He was trying to create a new catch phrase that sounded sexually dirty, alluding to the fact that something was causing his 'timbers' to jiggle.

I'm afraid this one will lose something in the translation. It would be somewhat like translating a pun. Often a phrase is left in the original language if there is not a suitable substitute.

inače, dee ti je jako dobro odg. 

[kanda]

Tu frazu govori vulgarni i seksistički nastrojen radio voditelj. Ako se prevede na drugi način mislim da neće imati smisla. Usput, izreka je bitna u epizodi, nije samo neka usputna uzrečica. Mislim da je bolje ne prevesti nego prevesti sa nekim desetim smislom.

[dee]

i beg to differ.
ako prevedeš i zadržiš dio smisla, za nekog tko ne razumije engleski napravio/la si više nego li da si ostavio/la neprevedeno. a titlovi se ipak rade za ljude koji ne razumiju strani jezik.
primjer: sređujem titlove za heroje svojim ne-angliziranim ljenjivcima. u jednom titlu je netko ostavio "horn-rimmed" naočale. što to govori ne-angliziranoj populaciji? ništa. da lik nosi naočale. kakve? tko će ga znati. to su ustvari naočale s okvirom od materijala koji nalikuje na rog. malo previše informacija za titl. dumala sam nad tim desetak minuta, i zaključila da će "debele naočale" biti dovoljno, jer je poanta u naočalama, ne u njihovom okviru. (doduše, još uvijek me muči to što debele kod nas ima dvostruku konotaciju: debeli okvir ili debela stakla.) i to je to. trebaš zaključiti koji dio značenja ti je bitniji, i pokušati njega zadržati.

još jedan prijedlog: nabaci koju ideju - uzvike koji bi odgovarali kontekstu, pa ću ti pokušati nešto izmajmunirati (kažu mi da imam žicu za takve stvari). sve je bolje nego ostaviti neprevedeno!!!

[kanda]

Tip koji je prevodio na slovenski je preveo "stresi me ko krušku". To mi baš ne zvuči dobro. Nema seksualne aluzije. Možda nesto u stilu stresi moje stablo, il tako nesto. Mora se zadrzati bar dio seksualne aluzije, jer je u tome smisao. Usput, hvala dee na trudu.

[pejafor3]

1. Počeši mi jajca.
2. Počešeš mi muda-jajca-upiši sam... 
3. Mož me jebati (tako ja kažem kad ne mogu da se setim  nečega)
4, Uhvatiš me za (dodaj sam neku reč)
5. Popaseš mi muda-jaja

Pojma nemam...  opsuj nešto.
Ne znam o čemu se radi.

P.S. Inace sam sad na petoj sezoni. Monk rulezzz!

[brxxxi]

Phillipe believes you're safe here for at least another four days.

Where does he suggest we go next?

He's preparing a place for you off the Cape.

I hate the weather there.

Dakle se to priprema novo bazbedno mesto na kome on mrzi vreenske prilike

[kanda]

hvala svima na pomoći. Nešto cu vec staviti.

[dee]

spontano mi pada na pamet ovo: od njega mi se diže kosa na drugoj glavi.
zadržava se neka vrsta seksualizirano/neprimjerene aluzije, a napravili smo isto što su i englezi - izvrnuli ustaljenu frazu kako bismo ju učinili nepristojnom.
sad, da se ovo i bolje razraditi, ako imaš volje za brainstorming... no, ovo je smjer u kojem bih ja krenula da sam na tvom mjestu.

edit: zanemarite ove baljezgarije, pobrkala sam postove brxxija i kanda.  tako mi i treba kad ne čitam pažljivo.

[pejafor3]

Phillipe believes you're safe here for at least another four days.

Where does he suggest we go next?

He's preparing a place for you off the Cape.

I hate the weather there.

Dakle se to priprema novo bazbedno mesto na kome on mrzi vreenske prilike

Da, tako je...

On odgovara:

Mrzim to mesto
Ne sviđa mi se tamo
Ne sviđa mi se vreme tamo
Mrzim tamošnje vreme
Tamo je odvratno vreme

[brxxxi]

ali koje je mesto u pitanju off the cape sta je to

[pejafor3]

ali koje je mesto u pitanju off the cape sta je to

E to vec ne znam.
Ne znam ni sta prevodis...
Ali evo ti, ako ti nesto pomaze...
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/the+cape
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Cape

[klio]

He's preparing a place for you off the Cape.

I hate the weather there.


Sprema mesto za tebe kod Kejpa(u okolini Kejpa) - ako je u pitanju neko mesto kao sto je Cape Canaveral pa ga onda samo skrate na Cape, a ako nije u seriji spominjano mesto(jer ne znam o kojoj je seriji rec) onda samo u okolini rta.

[brxxxi]

Hvala pomoglo je

[brxxxi]

Evo mene opet.......
Imam jednu rec........
Kolega grdi hakera cudeci se kako nije uspeo da pristupi tajnim podacima sopstvene organizacije.... Ovaj odgovara "Trazim, ali I'm coming up snake-eyes."
Na sta ovaj odgovara.... Znaci znaju da trazis i ne daju da nadjes.....

E sad mene interesuje kako najpravilnije prevesti to... "izlaze mi zmijske oci" tako bi bilo bukvalno........ a kako prevesti... koju metaforu upotrebiti