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« Odgovor #40 : 20.11.2011. 17:30:41 »
crusade prati brod koji traži lijek sa drakh kugu, ima samo par epizoda i nije nešt toliko ni bitno, ali nije na odmet i pogledat ako već gledaš

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« Odgovor #41 : 21.11.2011. 01:28:45 »
ja sad skidam seriju i nije mi baš najjasnije šta je Crusade. Može li neko pojašnjenje, molim Vas, znam da odavno ovo ne čitate ali sigurno se sećate.
Jasno mi je da je spinoff, ali ne znam u kom moentu se odvaja, a može onda i odgovor na prethodno pitanje, koje je postavio Matricar

evo jedna dobra preporuka o redoslijedu gledanja Babylona


Spoiler for Hiden:
Start off with the pilot ("The Gathering") but dont be put off by it, its not the best but everything has to start somewhere!

Then watch all of season 1 and season 2, some people will say "watch In the beginning before season 1" and although the events in that film (the earth/mibari war) are before season 1, it is told from 2278 and has a lot of other stuff in it you just will not appreciate until later, not to mention some of the info on sinclair practically ruins season 1 viewing for you.

After season 2, move straight into season 3 and then from season 3 go into season 4...

midway through season 4 between the episodes of "Into the Fire" and "Moments of Transition" is the time to watch "Thirdspace" which is set between these 2 episodes and has no spoilers or anything as it is pretty self contained.

Then continue with season 4. After season 4 is the time to watch "In The Beginning" in my view as it will show stuff from season 3, before season 1 and also some season 4 things, it will also hint at the near future in season 5 and you will really enjoy this film, i believe personally it is the best of the films.

Then watch season 5 upto "Objects at rest" which is the one from last episode, do not watch "sleeping in light" just yet.

After objects at rest watch River Of Souls which is set 6 months after Objects at rest (in 2263) not bad film.

Then watch Legend of the rangers (if you want to watch it) but i wouldnt bother as its awful and not consistent with rest of B5. This is where it fits in timeline wise as it is set 3 years after objects at rest.

After LoTR its time for A Call To Arms, 2nd to in the beginning a good theatrical film introducing the new charaters of the spin off "Crusade". this is set 5 years after season 5.  This was kind of pilot for crusade as well as a final movie for b5. If you have the 13 eps of crusade on DVD watch these directly after ACTA, they are good and crusade would have become a great show like B5 if the network would have allowed it to run.

After a call to arms and crusade, you are ready to watch Sleeping in Light and cry with the rest of us that there is no more B5 left to watch! sit back and marvel and think yourself enlighted for seeing such a wonderful show as it was meant to be seen.

While that will conclude your viewing there are graphic novels which have good plots which fill in some gaps, also there are 3 trilogies; the psi corps trilogy which is fantastic, the centauri prime trilogy which is also top notch and lastly the technomage trilogy which is very dark and exciting. those 3 trilogies are must reads, as are books #7 and #9 which are considered cannon by JMS.

Season 1

    * 1x00: The Gathering
    * 1x01: Midnight on the Firing Line
    * 1x02: Soul Hunter
    * 1x03: Born to the Purple
    * 1x04: Infection
    * 1x05: The Parliament of Dreams
    * 1x06: Mind War
    * 1x07: The War Prayer
    * 1x08: And the Sky Full of Stars
    * 1x09: Deathwalker
    * 1x10: Believers
    * 1x11: Survivors
    * 1x12: By Any Means Necessary
    * 1x13: Signs and Portents
    * 1x15: Grail
    * 1x16: Eyes
    * 1x18: A Voice in the Wilderness (1)
    * 1x19: A Voice in the Wilderness (2)
    * 1x20: Babylon Squared
    * 1x21: The Quality of Mercy
    * 1x14: TKO
    * 1x17: Legacies
    * 1x22: Chrysalis

Season 2

    * 2x01: Points of Departure
    * 2x02: Revelations
    * 2x03: The Geometry of Shadows
    * 2x04: A Distant Star
    * 2x05: The Long Dark
    * 2x06: Spider in the Web
    * 2x08: A Race Through Dark Places
    * 2x07: Soul Mates
    * 2x09: The Coming of Shadows
    * 2x10: GROPOS
    * 2x11: All Alone in the Night
    * 2x12: Acts of Sacrifice
    * 2x13: Hunter, Prey
    * 2x14: There All the Honor Lies
    * 2x15: And Now for a Word
    * 2x17: Knives
    * 2x16: In the Shadow of Z’ha’dum
    * 2x18: Confessions and Lamentations
    * 2x19: Divided Loyalties
    * 2x20: The Long Twilight Struggle
    * 2x21: Comes the Inquisitor
    * 2x22: The Fall of Night

Season 3

    * 3x01: Matters of Honor
    * 3x02: Convictions
    * 3x03: A Day in the Strife
    * 3x04: Passing Through Gethsemane
    * 3x05: Voices of Authority
    * 3x06: Dust to Dust
    * 3x07: Exogenesis
    * 3x08: Messages from Earth (1)
    * 3x09: Point of No Return (2)
    * 3x10: Severed Dreams (3)
    * 3x11: Ceremonies of Light and Dark
    * 3x13: A Late Delivery from Avalon
    * 3x12: Sic Transit Vir
    * 3x14: Ship of Tears
    * 3x15: Interludes and Examinations
    * 3x18: Walkabout
    * 3x16: War Without End (1)
    * 3x17: War Without End (2)
    * 3x19: Grey 17 Is Missing
    * 3x20: And the Rock Cried Out, No Hiding Place
    * 3x21: Shadow Dancing
    * 3x22: Z’ha’dum

Season 4

    * 4x01: The Hour of the Wolf
    * 4x02: What Ever Happened to Mr. Garibaldi?
    * 4x03: The Summoning
    * 4x04: Falling Towards Apotheosis
    * 4x05: The Long Night
    * 4x06: Into the Fire
    * 4x07: Epiphanies
    * 4x08: The Illusion of Truth
    * Movie: Thirdspace
    * 4x09: Atonement
    * 4x10: Racing Mars
    * 4x11: Lines of Communication
    * 4x12: Conflicts of Interest
    * 4x13: Rumors, Bargains and Lies
    * 4x14: Moments of Transition
    * 4x15: No Surrender, No Retreat
    * 4x16: Exercise of Vital Powers
    * 4x17: The Face of the Enemy
    * 4x18: Intersections in Real Time
    * 4x19: Between the Darkness and the Light
    * 4x20: Endgame
    * 4x21: Rising Star
    * 4x22: The Deconstruction of Falling Stars
    * Movie: In the Beginning

Season 5

    * 5x01: No Compromises
    * 5x02: The Very Long Night of Londo Mollari
    * 5x03: The Paragon of Animals
    * 5x04: A View from the Gallery
    * 5x05: Learning Curve
    * 5x06: Strange Relations
    * 5x07: Secrets of the Soul
    * 5x09: In the Kingdom of the Blind
    * 5x10: A Tragedy of Telepaths
    * 5x11: Phoenix Rising
    * 5x12: The Ragged Edge
    * 5x08: Day of the Dead
    * 5x13: The Corps Is Mother, the Corps Is Father
    * 5x14: Meditations on the Abyss
    * 5x15: Darkness Ascending
    * 5x16: And All My Dreams Torn Asunder
    * 5x17: Movements of Fire and Shadow (1)
    * 5x18: The Fall of Centauri Prime (2)
    * 5x19: The Wheel of Fire
    * 5x20: Objects in Motion
    * 5x21: Objects at Rest
    * Movie: River of Souls
    * Movie: The Legend of the Rangers
    * Movie: A Call to Arms

Crusade

    * Crusade 1x01: War Zone
    * Crusade 1x02: The Long Road
    * Crusade 1x03: The Well of Forever
    * Crusade 1x04: The Path of Sorrows
    * Crusade 1x05: Patterns of the Soul
    * Crusade 1x06: Ruling from the Tomb
    * Crusade 1x07: The Rules of the Game
    * Crusade 1x08: Appearances and Other Deceits
    * Crusade 1x09: Racing the Night
    * Crusade 1x10: The Memory of War
    * Crusade 1x11: The Needs of Earth
    * Crusade 1x12: Visitors from Down the Street
    * Crusade 1x13: Each Night I Dream of Home

The rest

    * 5x22: Sleeping in Light
    * 6x01: The Lost Tales; Voices in the Dark
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« Odgovor #42 : 21.11.2011. 14:30:39 »
ja sad skidam seriju i nije mi baš najjasnije šta je Crusade. Može li neko pojašnjenje, molim Vas, znam da odavno ovo ne čitate ali sigurno se sećate.
Jasno mi je da je spinoff, ali ne znam u kom moentu se odvaja, a može onda i odgovor na prethodno pitanje, koje je postavio Matricar
evo jedna dobra preporuka o redoslijedu gledanja Babylona
Svaka čast na ovome, Krbo.  clapp
Napiši samo gde si na ovo nabasao, voleo bih i ja da malo pogledam.

Ljubiteljima koji nisu još gledali preporučio bih i Babylon 5: The Lost Tales. Ja sam se prijatno iznenadio. Čitao sam kako su snimali te dve priče. Ništa od kulisa nije ostalo, nije bilo ni Šeridanove uniforme - ludnica. Čisti entuzijazam.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0871427/

Iako snimljeno minimalnim budžetom, vrlo interesantno, sasvim u duhu B5. Prava naučna fantastika.

U jednoj od priča, sveštenika igra onaj bradonja (Alan Skarf) koji je u SGA epizodi Poisoning the Well bio vođa naroda koji je vekovima pravio vakcinu da bi uništio Utvare (Wraith) pa se onda, uz pomoć Atlantiđana, na kraju samovakcinisao. To je izazvalo gađenje i bes naših pravednih Atlantiđana.
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« Odgovor #43 : 22.11.2011. 01:50:06 »
Svaka čast na ovome, Krbo.  clapp
Napiši samo gde si na ovo nabasao, voleo bih i ja da malo pogledam.

misliš na popis? Pojma nemam, negdje sa interneta je, ali sam ja copy&paste u txt file koji čuči već dvije godine na disku
(i dobro je došao)



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« Odgovor #44 : 22.11.2011. 02:00:39 »
misliš na popis? Pojma nemam, negdje sa interneta je, ali sam ja copy&paste u txt file koji čuči već dvije godine na disku
(i dobro je došao)
Nek' je čuč'o - dobro je dočuč'o.  ;D

Tekst odaje autora-znalca. Mislio sam da bi bilo dobro videti još pokoji iz istog pera.
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« Odgovor #45 : 25.11.2011. 00:01:32 »
Tja... Krbo, taj spisak ne mora značiti mnogo.
Ovo što sad slijedi je mali off, ali dobro ilustruje ono što želim reći.
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Jedan od mojih najboljih prijatelja je veliki fan Star Warsa, kao i ja (praktično smo odrasli na 4., 5., i 6. epizodi). Prije nekoliko godina, svojoj curi (koja ti je živa enciklopedija Star Treka, ali o Star Warsima pojma nema; znam, čudno, ali istina je, života mi!) pustio Fantomsku prijetnju. Odgledali oni film zajedno i kad je završio, ona mu kaže "Ja ovo ništa ne razumijem." On njoj "Kako ne razumiješ?", a ona "Ko su džedaji?"; on objasni. "Ko je Palpatin?"; on objasni. "A, znači on će se kasnije pretvoriti u nekog zlog imperatora? Aha. A što je onaj dječak važan? Aha, on će kasnije postati... Kako si ono rekao? Dart Vejder? Aha. A ko je sad Dart Vejder, u p!#$u materinu?" I tako ukrug.
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Ja se nikad, ni u knjigama a ni u serijama/filmovima ne opterećujem previše vremenskim slijedom događaja. Kao po pravilu, i čitam i gledam sve onim redom kojim je izlazilo. Smatram da je tako uživanje najveće. Recimo, mnogo mi je zanimljivije gledati Palpatina kad znam u šta će se na kraju pretvoriti, nego samo vidjeti nekog tamo starog čikicu koji, eto, postade otjelotvorenje zla i svega što ne valja.
Tako i za B5. Kao prvo, Crusade jedva da i ima veze sa originalnom serijom. Možda ima neke logike prvo pogledati Call to Arms, mada mi je i to pod upitnikom, jer je samo posljednjih 5 min uvod u seriju. Kao drugo, Crusade mi iskreno i nije bila nešto, B5 je svjetlosnu godinu ispred.
A smatram da i u čitanju i u gledanju mozak sam na kraju sve posloži kako treba. Meni je često čak i zanimljivije kad znam za neki događaj, pa onda gledam "objašnjenje" kako je do njega došlo.
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« Odgovor #46 : 25.11.2011. 00:36:57 »
Tja... Krbo, taj spisak ne mora značiti mnogo.
Ovo što sad slijedi je mali off, ali dobro ilustruje ono što želim reći.

Ovdje, recimo, pogledaj film "In the Beginning" koji govori o onome što je bilo prije prve sezone i grdno si spoilao
cijelu sezonu.

Nekada valja učiti na tuđim greškama.
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« Odgovor #47 : 25.11.2011. 00:52:38 »
Ovdje, recimo, pogledaj film "In the Beginning" koji govori o onome što je bilo prije prve sezone i grdno si spoilao
cijelu sezonu.
Tačno tako. Moj primjer sa Star Warsima je možda i malo pretjeran, ali shvataš na šta sam mislio.
Velike su se polemike vodile (pa i ovdje pomalo) kojim redoslijedom treba gledati epizode. I ja sam mišljenja da treba ići 4., 5., 6., pa tek onda 1., 2., 3., mada neupućeni redovno zinu kad kažem tako nešto.

Moj rezon je (u svemu) da je pisac/scenarista izmišljao priču određenim redoslijedom, pa je najzanimljivije i pratiti taj redoslijed. Da je htio pravu hronologiju, išao bi tim putem, i onda bih ja tako i gledao/čitao.  :)
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